Justice Dept says Torture-based Evidence at Guantanamo is Legitimate

Michael J. Sniffen for Associated Press, 12/3/2004

By Michael J. Sniffen


WASHINGTON — Evidence gained by torture can be used by the U.S. military in
deciding whether to imprison a foreigner indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba,
as an enemy combatant, the government concedes.

Statements produced under torture have been inadmissible in U.S. courts for
about 70 years. But the U.S. military panels reviewing the detention of 550
foreigners as enemy combatants at the U.S. naval base in Cuba are allowed to
use such evidence, Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General Brian Boyle
acknowledged at a U.S. District Court hearing Thursday.

Some of the prisoners have filed lawsuits challenging their detention without
charges for up to three years so far. At the hearing, Boyle urged District
Judge Richard J. Leon to throw their cases out.

Attorneys for the prisoners argued that some were held solely on evidence
gained by torture, which they said violated fundamental fairness and U.S. due
process standards. But Boyle argued in a similar hearing Wednesday that the
detainees "have no constitutional rights enforceable in this court."

Leon asked whether a detention based solely on evidence gathered by torture
would be illegal, because "torture is illegal. We all know that."

Boyle replied that if the military's combatant status review tribunal
"determine that evidence of questionable provenance were reliable, nothing in
the due process clause (of the Constitution) prohibits them from relying on

Leon asked whether there were any restrictions on using torture- induced

Boyle replied that the United States never would adopt a policy that would
have barred it from acting on evidence that could have prevented the Sept. 11,
2001, terrorist attacks even if the data came from questionable practices like
torture by a foreign power.

Several arguments underlie the U.S. court ban on products of torture.

"About 70 years ago, the Supreme Court stopped the use of evidence produced by
third-degree tactics largely on the theory that it was totally unreliable,"
Harvard Law Professor Philip B. Heymann, a former deputy U.S. attorney
general, said in an interview. Subsequent high court rulings were based on
revulsion at "the unfairness and brutality of it and later on the idea that
confessions ought to be free and uncompelled."

Leon asked whether U.S. courts could review detentions based on evidence from
torture conducted by U.S. personnel.

Boyle said torture was against U.S. policy and any allegations of it would be
"forwarded through command channels for military discipline." He added, "I
don't think anything remotely like torture has occurred at Guantanamo" but
noted that some U.S. soldiers there had been disciplined for misconduct,
including a female interrogator who removed her blouse during questioning.

The International Committee of the Red Cross said Tuesday it has given the
Bush administration a confidential report critical of U.S. treatment of
Guantanamo detainees. The *New York Times* reported the Red Cross described
the psychological and physical coercion used at Guantanamo as "tantamount to

The combatant status review tribunals comprise three colonels and lieutenant
colonels. They were set up after the Supreme Court ruled in June that the
detainees could ask U.S. courts to see to it they had a proceeding in which to
challenge their detention. The panels have reviewed 440 of the prisoners so
far but have released only one.

The military also set up an annual administrative review which consider
whether the detainee still presents a danger to the United States but doesn't
review enemy combatant status. Administrative reviews have been completed for

Boyle argued these procedures are sufficient to satisfy the high court.

Noting that detainees cannot have lawyers at the combatant status review
proceedings and cannot see any secret evidence against them, detainee attorney
Wes Powell argued "there is no meaningful opportunity in the (proceedings) to
rebut the government's claims."

Leon suggested that if federal judges start reviewing the military's evidence
for holding foreign detainees there could be "practical and collateral
consequences . . . at a time of war."

And he suggested an earlier Supreme Court ruling might limit judges to
checking only on whether detention orders were lawfully issued and review
panels were legally established.

Leon and Judge Joyce Hens Green, who held a similar hearing Wednesday, said
they would try to rule soon on whether the 59 detainees may proceed with their